Yet another reason it's just not safe to have horses in the city. Lucky for owner, Dan Sampson AND the horse that she didn't get to North Avenue or Division Street. This isn't the first time horses have escaped from the Old Town stable.
Here's a video from ABC 7 here in Chicago
Friday, December 19, 2008
Noble Horse carriage horse escapes (April 2008)
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It's not "safe" to have horses anywhere.
Or dogs. Or cats. Or humans.
All life and pursuits carry inherent risk.
Dogs get loose and get hit by cars everyday - should we not have dogs in the city?
Eventing horses get injured on a regular basis - jumping horses crash over obstacles, dressage horses bow tendons, etc, there are runaways, trailering injuries, etc etc etc.
You cannot erase risk from life.
You could, however, legislate human interaction with animals out of existence, because it's not "safe".
And what a sick, sad thing that would be.
Would these horses be "safer" without a job, on their way to a slaughter house, like the thousands that head to the Mexican abattoirs every week in this country?
It's my understanding that Dan Sampson runs a great enterprise, and I think Chicago is lucky to have him & his horse operations.
This makes me laugh.
LUCKY to have Noble Horse?
At least say Antique Coach who gives A LITTLE regard to their horses.
That's your entire response to all the points I made?
Obviously, MichaleenFlynn is lying for Dan Sampson or is very ignorant as to how he operates his business. He overworks very old horses and works them until they die. Some horrible deaths. At this point, we have obtained volumes of documentation from past and current employees recounting specific episodes of abuse and neglect.
Now regarding the topic of risk. Yes, risk is inherent in daily life. But I can assure everyone that blatant abuse and "risk" are mutually exclusive in daily life as well. A dog lives with the possibility of being hit by a car. That's risk. The owner of the dog not providing appropriate shelter, food, kindness, and veterinary care is clearly abuse and neglect. Not providing a facility that keeps horses from escaping into the streets of Chicago is neglect. Anyone that stupid and lazy should not be allowed to own animals. It's very very simple logic but I guess carriage owners must be intellectually challenged to not understand this concept.
Another form of abuse is allowing incompetent and/or heartless drivers to handle your horses. The likelihood of injury or abuse increases greatly when hiring people who abuse the horses you own. For instance, the foreign driver, Adam. We have heard countless complaints about his complete disregard for the horse as his only concern is making the few measely dollars he calls a pathetic living. And then there is Ted. Everyone's favorite Water Tower drug addict managing the carriages as they roll in and out of that evil place. He can be found slurring his words talking to customers or passed out in one of those broken down filthy carriages. Is that labeled a "risk"? Is it an inherent life risk that drug addicts and drunks drive your carriages? Hell NO! That is abuse and neglect because you allow it to happen.
Maybe Dan Sampson would be able to raise the quality of his employees if he would only treat them better. And yes Dan, they ARE EMPLOYEES, not subcontractors. How is your court case with the State of Illinois coming along? And maybe you could pay them on time and pay all the payroll taxes you owe. AND, maybe you could pay your EMPLOYEES on time all the money you owe them.
In conclusion, it is absurd to call abuse an "inherent life risk". Is that the only defense carriage owners can come up with? I ASSURE YOU,
that defense will not hold up in court.
I haven't been in the Noble Horse stable for years, but it was pretty good when I was working there. Dan rotated his horses in and out of town, and they were well kept. Yes, he did work old horses that I, personally, would have opted to retire. Light work is good for old horses, as well as humans. Exercise is good. Give them a few shifts to give other horses a break, put them on light carriages. Overworking old or lame horses is cruel though. Most drivers don't know how to work a geriatric horse (i.e. don't push them, don't run them up hills, etc). Dan is, and has always been, an idiot who hires idiots. I've had drivers from several companies tell me horror stories about Adam and Ted as well. Dan will delay paying drivers (if he ever does pay), hire incompetent drivers that are poorly trained. How IS that work comp case going, anyway?
My all time favorite. Week of 9/11. Dan: "How can you think about being paid at a time like this? Don't you know our country is at war? And you want to be PAID?"
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